Muhammad Ali's opponents in the eyes of modern fans -OR- Ali's bum of the month club

Modern fans and good-old-time nostalgists love dissing Klitschko's opponents.

Every time a new opponent is announced they typically respond by:

  • "Who is that? Never heard of this guy! This heavyweight era sucks."
  • "Whom has he beaten? Why does he get a title shot? Very poor talent pool in this era."

 

I already gave an overview of Ali's record at Muhammad Ali’s heavyweight record in a nutshell, hence it's time to analyze Muhammad Ali's opponents one by one.

Let's check one by one how worthy they were.

Let's write what today's fans would write about Ali's opponents would it be not Ali but Klitschko who would have to face them.

How would modern fans react would Klitschko fight exactly the same opponents that Muhammad Ali fought.

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Opponent of Muhammad Ali What modern fans would say if Wladimir Klitschko (245 lbs) fought this opponent
1962-11-15

·Archie Moore

184 lbs

48yro opponent, 5'11'', started to box at 140+ lbs? 60 lbs advantage for Klitschko? You must be joking. This is the worst heavyweight era of all times.
1963-06-18

·Henry Cooper

185 lbs

Hahaha, Klitschko is such a loser. 59 lbs advantage and gets knocked down by bum Cooper (27-8).
1964-02-25

·Sonny Liston

218 lbs

World Heavyweight title

Why does Klitschko get a title shot? By beating the bum Copper? And why is Sonny Liston, the Eric Esch of the 50s, the world champ? By beating a 194 lbs guy (Patterson), who started to box at 160+ lbs? And why did Liston quit on his stool before any action started? This generation of boxers is a joke. Back in Joe Louis' times they went 20 rounds.

From the book "The Real Story Behind the Ali-Liston Fights":

"During the first Liston-Ali fight at the Convention Hall in Miami Beach on February 25, 1964, Sonny had a bad left shoulder. He had gone to see Joe Louis' doctor who treated him for bursitis, but there wasn't enough time for the treatment to work. Sonny was around 45 years old at the time, which was a well kept secret, and old men like Sonny just healed more slowly. He asked the Florida Boxing Commission for a postponement of the fight. He was turned down and fought the six rounds with the damaged left shoulder, which he completely tore up during the fight. He had no jab and no left hook that night because of it."

Side note: After this fight Wladimir Klaitschko changed his name to Wladimir Alitschko.

1965-05-25

·Sonny Liston

215 lbs

World Heavyweight title

*Argh* This incompetent SOB of a referee. Worst decision of all time. Obviously Liston's age (nearly 10 years older than Klitschko) wasn't enough to secure Klitschko a win. Liston's kids had to be kidnapped by Klitschko's friends (Nation of Islam) and the referee had to be bribed so that Klitschko can keep his title. Lowest crowd in history (2000+) of all heavyweight title fights. This era sucks huge time. I cancelled my PPV.

Wladimir Klitschko got his WBA belt stripped by the WBA for rematching Sonny Liston. WBA is an organization full of crooks.

Boxrec Wiki:

"In the wake of the controversial fight, there was an outcry by press and politicians for the abolition of boxing. Bills to ban the sport were planned in several state legislatures.

A promoter in San Antonio apologized to his theater TV customers and, on the basis that they had been defrauded by a "shameful spectacle," donated his take to boys' clubs. The California legislature, in session, received a resolution calling for an investigation by the state attorney general to determine if its closed-circuit viewers had been fraudulently duped out of their money."

 

From the book "The Real Story Behind the Ali-Liston Fights"

"In the second fight at St. Dominic’s Hall in Lewiston, Maine, on May 25, 1965 a really bizarre situation developed. According to Gallender, Malcolm X's people had a hit out on Ali (Ali sided with the rival Elijah Muhammad). Elijah's Black Muslims kidnapped Geraldine Liston and Liston's son Bobby. Sonny was told to lose the fight to Ali or he would never see his family again! The fight lasted one round with Liston going down from the famous 'Phantom Punch'."

1965-11-22

·Floyd Patterson

196 lbs

World Heavyweight title

Is this a joke? I thought we got rid of Patterson for good, when Liston decapitated him. Why is Wlad fighting washed up opponents? And why did it take Wlad 12 rounds to KO 6'0'' Patterson? Wladimir Klitschko is such a featherfist.
1966-03-29

·George Chuvalo

216 lbs

World Heavyweight title

Who the heck is Chuvalo? 34-11? Seriously?
Additionally coming off a loss against a cruiser bum (Hector Eduardo Corletti, 11-2, 191 lbs). Chuvalo has lost 2 of his last 3 fights?
Hahahaha. What a p*ss poor state the current heavyweight division is in.
1966-05-21

·Henry Cooper

188 lbs

World Heavyweight title

216 lbs was too heavy for poor Wlad. He wants his 57 lbs and 8-year advantage again. What a shitty era.
1966-08-06

·Brian London

201 lbs

World Heavyweight title

London should move back to cruiser. And what is Wladimir Klitschko padding up his championship record with 35-13 bums like London, who are nearly 8 years older than him? What a crappy era.
1966-09-10

·Karl Mildenberger

195 lbs

World Heavyweight title

How in the world did this featherfist (30%+ KO'ratio) earn a title shot? By beating Ivan Prebeg (13-9, 182 lbs)? SERIOUSSSSLYYYY?
And did you know what Klitschko will say a few years later? That Mildenberger was a tougher opponent than Frazier. Don't know whether to laugh or to cry. Worst era in heavyweight boxing!
1966-11-14

·Cleveland Williams

210 lbs

World Heavyweight title

Just as I thought it couldn't get any worse, Wlad fights a corpse. Cleveland Williams (nearly 9 years older than Wlad) couldn't train properly the entire year because he was in a hospital after a gun shot. A shadow of himself (intestines and parts of the kidneys removed), limping and outweighed by 35 lbs it was point and shoot for Wlad. Probably the low point in Wladimir's heavyweight run so far. A vomit inducing display of what heavyweight boxing has degraded to.
1967-02-06

·Ernie Terrell

212 lbs

World Heavyweight title

Is Wlad ducking hard punchers? Why in the world would he fight such a featherfist (KO'ratio 40%)? Ernie Terell is in the BOTTOM-2 of the most featherfisted heavyweight champs of all time (out of 78 heavyweight champs).
1967-03-22

·Zora Folley

202 lbs

World Heavyweight title

I am speechless, that featherfist (40% KO'ratio) Zora Folley (7 years older than Klitschko) gets a title shot. Obviously beating three bums (Floyd Joyner 22-11, Jefferson Davis 28-10, Henry Clark 8-2) secures you a title shot these days. Such a poor era.
1970-10-26

·Jerry Quarry

197 lbs

Muahaha, obvously Wlad's last fight against Zora Folley 202 lbs was too much for poor Wladimir Klitschko. Now he needs an even lighter opponent. And how did Quarry earn his shot? You guessed it: By beating a bum nobody ever heard of (Stamford Harris, 14-20). This era has no talent whatsoever. Wladimir Klitschko is the B-level fighter among C-level competition.
1970-12-07

·Oscar Bonavena

204 lbs

NABF heavyweight title

Wow, Wlad is brave again. This time he outweighs his tiny opponent (5'10'') "only" by 41 lbs. How did Bonavena earn his title shot? Oh, sure: By beating three bums (Pires 15-5, Woody 14-6, Ramos 23-11).
1971-03-08

·Joe Frazier

205 lbs

WBA heavyweight title
WBC heavyweight title

Finally Wladimir Klitschko fought an unbeaten opponent. No wonder Wladimir Klitschko lost. Other than that: Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier was a boring fight and the audience was booing.
1971-07-26

·Jimmy Ellis

189 lbs

NABF heavyweight title

Muahaha! 205 lbs was too much for Wladimir Klitschko. Now he needs a break and goes for Ellis, a 189 lbs featherfist (30%+ KO'ratio) who started to box at 150+ lbs. Wladimir Klitschko is such a cherry-picker.
1971-11-17

·Buster Mathis

256 lbs

NABF heavyweight title

Hahaha, loser fighting loser. Both men lost to Frazier. Buster Mathis is grossly out of shape. I wonder what idiots spent money to watch these tomato cans on PPV.
Poor Wladimir, couldn't KO Buster. Wladimir prefers opponents who are lighter than him. Wladimir Klitschko is a big turd.
1971-12-26

·Juergen Blin

198 lbs

Buster Mathis (29-2, 256 lbs) was too much for Wladimir. Now Klitschko needs to slow down again and hence goes for this featherfisted (14% KO'ratio) light bum (198 lbs, 27-9)
1972-04-01

·Mac Foster

211 lbs

I fell asleep halfway through the fight. No KOs, no knockdowns. Featherfisted Wladimir Klitschko at it again.
1972-05-01

·George Chuvalo

221 lbs

NABF heavyweight title

*Uff* Please not Chuvalo (6'0'') again. How did he earn his title shot this time? Oh, by beating two bums (Jim Christopher 8-22 and Charley Chase 21-12). At least he didn't come off a loss like last time. Boring fight. Chuvalo didn't come to fight.
1972-06-27

·Jerry Quarry

198 lbs

NABF heavyweight title

LOL, 221 lbs was too much for Wlad again. He prefers featherfisted cruisers like Quarry (50% KO'ratio). Yes, yes, we know this by now. Another helpless victim for Wladimir Klitschko. Could we please have some live opponent? This generation of boxers is a joke.
1972-07-19

·Alvin Lewis

223 lbs

Wlad makes another attempt to fight someone more heavy than his usual victims. But why did he pick this guy? Oh, I see: Alvin Lewis is coming off a loss. Typical cherry-picked victim of Wlad. But, hey, we shouldn't citicize this KO'win. After all it's the heaviest opponent Wladimir Klitschko will ever KO within 12.
1972-09-20

·Floyd Patterson

188 lbs

NABF heavyweight title

LOOOOOL. 223 lbs was again too heavy for Klitschko. Wladimir needs a timeout and picks an Patterson (6'0'') whom he can outweigh by 57 lbs and outage by 7 years. Wladimir Klitschko, the cherrypicker.
1972-11-21

·Bob Foster

180 lbs

NABF heavyweight title

180 lbs? SERIOUSLY? For the heavyweight title? What a toilet bowl of a heavyweight era.
1973-02-14

·Joe Bugner

219 lbs

Finally an opponent with a pulse (EBU heavyweight titlist). No wonder Wladimir Klitschko wins only a close decision. Only 5000+ people in attendence. That approximately sums up Wladimir Klitschko's level: European level and no public interest.
1973-03-31

·Ken Norton

210 lbs

NABF heavyweight title

Wladimir Klitschko tries now the world level… and fails again (loss SD12). Suffers a broken jaw. Wladimir Klitschko is a B-level fighter. And how did Ken Norton earn his title shot anyway? Oh, by beating a bum (Charlie Reno, 7-6). And what was Ken Norton's real heavyweight record 200×2 prior to the bout? 17-0? Yeah. Consisting of 16 bums and Joe Hemphill (who?). What a disgusting era this is when guys like Norton get a title shot.
1973-09-10

·Ken Norton

205 lbs

NABF heavyweight title

Wladimir Klitschko outweighs Ken Norton by 40 lbs… and gets a gift decision. Germany is famous for it's robberies. Experts scored this fight for Norton.
1973-10-20

·Rudi Lubbers

196 lbs

Poor Wladimir. 205 lbs and 6'3'' (Ken Norton) was too much Klitschko. Wlad prefers small cruisers (6'0'') coming off a loss like Lubbers, that's for sure. Wladimir Klitschko is a joke.
1974-01-28

·Joe Frazier

209 lbs

Finally Wladimir Klitschko meets featherfist Joe Frazier again, who unfortunately in the meanwhile has been exposed by George Foreman. No wonder, what can one expect from Joe, since Frazier is blind on his left eye and only 5'11''. WHAT-A-SH*TTY-ERA. At least Wladimir Klitschko manages to survive this time and wins a close decision.
1974-10-30

·George Foreman

220 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Hahahaha, what a joke. Could we please have some real heavyweight opponents? Back in Joe Louis' times opponents went 20 rounds, but nowadays these kids gas after 7 rounds. They should change this fight to NC or DQ anyway, since the trainer of Klitschko manipulated the ropes. Additionally we should get an investigation since Foreman claims he was poisoned:
  • "I almost spit it out … [I told my trainer] 'Man, I know this water has medicine in it'"
  • "I climbed into the ring with that medicinal taste still lingering in my mouth"
  • "It was years before I got my health back together"

We fans demand a rematch. But I bet Klitschko will duck Foreman. No way, Klitschko will let Foreman tear his intestines apart a second time. Wladimir is such a coward.

1975-03-24

·Chuck Wepner

225 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Wladimir Klitschko gets cocky. He handled 220 lbs and tries now 225 lbs. Ooops, gets knocked down. By a featherfist (20%+ KO'ratio). Klitschko should step it down the next fight. And fight someone who is lighter than Foreman and preferably coming off a loss.
1975-05-16

·Ron Lyle

219 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Yep, that's exactly what Wladimir Klitschko does. But how did Ron Lyle actually get the title shot for the UNIFIED heavyweight champ of the world? Oh, I see: By winning against a bum (Al Jones, 9-21) and then by LOSING against another bum (Jimmy Young, 13-4). That's how boxers get a title shot in this worst of all eras.
1975-06-30

·Joe Bugner

230 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Joe Bugner's second attempt. This time he earned his title shot by fighting two bums: Dante Cane (36-11) and Santiago Alberto Lovell (30-10, 199 lbs). That's a "worthiness proof" for sure. I can't believe Wladimir Klitschko has any fans left.
1975-10-01

·Joe Frazier

215 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Joe Frazier is at it again. The half-blind tiny (5'11'') ex-cruiser tries to beat Wladimir Klitschko for the second time. This time he earned his shot by beating a 197 lbs guy (Quarry) and then by beating a 200 lbs guy who lost 4 of his last 6 fights (Ellis). Go for it Joe! Will the audience boo again like the first time around?
1976-02-20

·Jean-Pierre Coopman

206 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

215 lbs was too much for Wladimir Klitschko. He needs to slow it down again. Hence he fights against Coopman, one of the biggest featherfists (30%+ KO'ratio whole career), who has earned his world title shot by what? By beating eight bums! Of which the last two (= the ones directly prior to his title shot) are Lisimo Obutobe (2-1) and Domingo Silveira (1-6). That must be the worst era in world history.
1976-04-30

·Jimmy Young

209 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Woooow! Klitschko cherrypicks a bum again. 17-4 (whole career 34-19) will surely be a nice addition to Klitschko's world title resume. And how did Jimmy Young earn his title shot? By beating three bums: Roman (46-14, whole career 53-27), Al Jones (10-23), Bobby Lloyd (5-10). With a KO'ratio of 20%+ Jimmy Young is another proof of the disastrous state the heavyweight division is in.
1976-05-24

·Richard Dunn

206 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Another featherfisted (30%+ KO'ratio) bum (whole career 33-12) on Klitschko's heavyweight title resume.
1976-09-28

·Ken Norton

217 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Klitschko against chinachin Ken Norton. Another robbery. Ken Norton should have won. Are the judges blind? There you have it: Klitschko is the gift champion. I am so sick and tired of Klitschko.
1977-05-16

·Alfredo Evangelista

209 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Muahahaha! Evangelista is 14-1? Seriously? Earning the UNIFIED title shot by winning against Lisimo Obutobe (2-3) and Guillermo De la Cruz (8-8) and then LOSING to Lorenzo Zanon (17-2). Muahahaha! What a shitty heavyweight era. Even the crowd is disgusted: Booing. Evangelista will end his career with 13 KO'losses. Wladimir Klitschko couldn't KO Evangelista. Klitschko is such a featherfist.
1977-09-29

·Earnie Shavers

211 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Small Earnie Shavers (6'0'') was outweighed by 34 lbs and showed us what he really is: Earnie Shavers is a KO'er of cruiser bums but a superheavyweight featherfist. At least we got some action for our money.
1978-02-15

·Leon Spinks

197 lbs

WBC heavyweight title
WBA heavyweight title

Just when I thought Evangelista was already the bottom of the bottom of this era, Leon Spinks 197 lbs shows up and earns his way to the unified title heavyweight world champion ship by having a record of 6-0. And you know what's worse? Wladimir Klitschko loses!! To this bum!!! During what is supposed to be the prime of a heavyweight boxer: His thirties. Jesus! Will this misery ever end? Retire already Wladimir Klitschko! You are holding the whole era hostage.
1978-09-15

·Leon Spinks

201 lbs

WBA heavyweight title

Woooow! Rematch! At least the Klitschko nuthuggers can claim now "Leon Spinks got lineal champ by beating Wladimir, hence by avenging Wladimir Klitschko has beaten yet another lineal champ". Hahahaha, what idiots.
1980-10-02

·Larry Holmes

211 lbs

WBC heavyweight title

The first worthy challenger since X years. And Wladimir Klitschko loses again. I hope Wladimir retires for good. What a terrible champ, or rather ex-champ.
1981-12-11

·Trevor Berbick

218 lbs

Wladimir Klitschko's last fight. The only mention worthy incident about this fight was that Don King got beaten up in his hotel room by Klitschko's friends (Nation of Islam).

 

There you have it.

Would Klitschko fight Ali's opponents today it would be THE proof of how the division sucks.

And let me tell you something: Fans would indeed have more right to dis Ali's opponents than Klitschko's.

Because Ali's era in _WAS INDEED_ worse than Klitschko's era. Klitschko wouldn't want to come near such bad opponents like Ali's opponents and Klitschko would be ashamed to perform so miserably against them as Ali did. And Klitschko's fans would be ashamed for all the gift decisions.

 

Ken Norton and George Foreman

Even household names like Ken Norton or George Foreman would be nonames today.

George Foreman would be 23-0 (his record in real heavyweight fights 200×2) or even only 7-0 (his record in 215×2 fight, which is more realistic today) when he met Muhammad Ali, hence Foreman would be considered somewhere on the level of Alexander Povetkin. Maybe Foreman would duck Klitschko (Foreman had a suspect chin) just as Povetkin was ducking Klitschko now.

Both Ken Norton and George Foreman would be some of the lightest and least experienced fighters the Klitschkos have ever faced. In fact, George Foreman, whom the called "Big George Foreman", with his average weight of 217 lbs in the 1970s would be Vitali Klitschko's BOTTOM-3 LIGHTEST and Ken Norton (208 lbs) would be Wladimir Kliitschko's BOTTOM-2 LIGHTEST opponent they ever faced. That fact alone would be proof of the dire state of the division.

 

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This article is no criticism of Ali.

It wasn't Muhammad Ali's fault, that he lived in such an as-modern-fans-would-call-it "terrible era". Clay/Ali could only fight was was put in front of him.

And no, we don't claim that the Klitschko era is the best heavyweight era. It might very well be that the Klitschko era is (or is not) the best heavyweight era of all time, but an era comparison is not the topic of this article. The topic of the article is "Modern fans" and "Fame names vs Real world records".

 

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Comments (8)

  • VVmmvvmm says:
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    #7028 VVmmvvmm (2014-02-26th)

    You waste your time to create this blog/stats.
    You can't convience an intelligent person with these numbers.
    -Corrie Sanders never beat before and after W. klitschko a decent fighter.
    But he could destroy Wladimir.Sanders chance by your stats was zero against W.Klitschko.
    And? He destroyed W.Klitschko easily.
    -Maybe w.klitschko is better than ali,louis and other fighters but nobody can prove this.
    For example:
    You wanna try Tyson was garbage against the tall fighters.Holmes was a tall fighter but
    the 6'6" (w.klitschko is 6'6" also) couldn't beat Holmes.Only Tyson could destroy the tall Holmes.
    This thing shows your logic doesn't work.Because your conception shows Tyson had zero chance
    against Holmes.

    Only this thing shows your blog is mindless.
    W. Klitschko never knocked an all-time great tall fighter out.Ali and Tyson did this.
    Try to live with the facts in peace! :-D :-P 8-O :!:

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  • Tommo says:
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    #7034 Tommo (2014-02-28th)

    Finally! Your absence for a year and a half was a real let down! As you may have noticed these issues have been repeatedly argued out time and again on places such as BoxingNews24 and the like to nothing less than what any reasonable person must accept as the truth but still their exists a sizable contingent of staunch believers that refuse to yield no matter how striking the evidence is. At the end of the day there can be no doubt that the opposition Ali faced was significantly worse than the general opposition of all who came after.

    Hell forget Klitschko, I could just imagine what a guy like Arreola could do to Ali LOL A guy the size of and aggressive as Foreman with probably a harder chin than the young version of Foreman but with much faster punches in combination and the stamina to keep up the pace for the full distance (yes, chubby Arreola has a good gas tank!) I don't think Ali would survive Arreola let alone Klitschko. Ironically about the only opponent from the 70's standing much of a shot at Arreola is Foreman himself but if we review the fight Foreman vs Lyle, it becomes pretty clear that very likely even George would fail!

    Great to be back to a boxing site where real debate is possible again, without the constant bans! Well done on another fact based assessment!! Keep up the good work!!!

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  • Tommo says:
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    #7042 Tommo (2014-03-01st)

    By the way admin, you should know that it is now only possible to leave comments on your site via unconventional means. It's the same for me and Honza and presumably everybody else. When you write a comment and click comment button a wordpress error page comes up. After clicking backspace it returns you to the last page but often the comment written has been deleted from the box.

    The solution is to write a comment, highlight and copy it incase the text is removed, click comment which takes you to the error page, click backspace, locate the comment box down the bottom again, if the text is gone paste it back in or if it's still there that's fine, click the comment button again and it should come up "duplicate text detected" at which point the comment will be posted but in order to reflect that you have to close the article and reopen it again.

    This should be fixed otherwise site will be dead!!

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    • Honza says:
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      #7043 Honza (2014-03-03rd)

      Yeah. That is a good point Carl. As always. But my last comment was there and I did not need to do that complicated way you described. I hope he will fix that.
      To answer your previous question I must say that I am not sure. Maybe I was there. I know some good boxing forums let alone this one. Some critics are also very one sided. Dont get me wrong. I also hate when somebody comes with something like:" oh wlad would get koed in first round by Jack Dempsey etc." That is a nonsence. Wlad is a fantastic fighter but that does not mean he is flawless. I personally think he is the smartest boxer of all time. He knows exactly who to face next and why. He has position to be the king who can choose any rules possible. But something like that was done by previous boxers as well. Former hevyweight champs were declined fights for years.
      My opinion on this article: Boxers I think could be good today are these: Muhammad, George, Ken, Ron, Cooney, Larry, Joe (at least I hope), Shavers and maybe somebody else. Just opinion.

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  • Honza says:
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    #7057 Honza (2014-03-13th)

    Maybe Foreman would duck Klitschko just as Povetkin is ducking Klitschko now. Foreman had a suspect chin, you need to know.
    They already fought admin. Maybe you should watch the late news from boxing instead of critisizing Alis oponents. Wlad vs. Povetkin was horrible match. Wlads first decent oponent since Haye (2011) and he showed that he is past his best.
    And second sentence is complete bullsh*t as well. It is funny how you can still impress me with your idiocy sometimes. Sorry but it is true.

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    • Admin says:
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      #7083 Admin (2014-04-02nd)
      They already fought admin.

      Yeah, article was written prior to their bout.

      Wlad vs. Povetkin was horrible match.

      Thank Povetkin who was trying to emulate David Haye's flopping. But instead of flopping he was coming in like a hedgehog.

      Wlad is so much better than the others that they are getting more and more desperate and trying to use very unusual means.

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      • Honza says:
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        #7085 Honza (2014-04-03rd)

        I forget that I am talking about super Klitschko nuthugger. I agree Povetkin was also trying to get away from Wlad punches but same way Wlad showed how desperate he is on inside. But I think it is useless. Your love for Klitschko blinds you really. Dont forget to label me as Ali fant or American complainer.

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  • Tommo says:
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    #7307 Tommo (2014-06-16th)

    Well Klitschko is definitely the best of the bunch admin but really, Povetkin was a good fighter, he'd have creamed most anybody from the distant past.

    Honestly this is now a very rich era.

    Klitschko is a dominant champ in an era full of definite talent now too.

    Klitschko vs Pulev
    Stiverne vs Arreola vs Wilder
    Fury vs Chisora
    Perez vs Jennings
    And David Haye ready to resurface

    That's 10 fighters there all of which would be serious factors in any era.

    Even humdrum Dereck Chisora is a "SuperFrazier" similar to old Joe but bigger and stronger.

    There are decent opponents through to the top 30 and several great prospects such as Joshua and Hugie etc on the rise.

    A very exciting time for HW boxing really.

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